The Old and The New

1 Jul

Couple of pictures that depict new trends while the old order tries to cling on. Heres a new fangled “Vegetable Market”

 

..while right outside the door, this woman tries to compete…

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20 Responses to “The Old and The New”

  1. Nikhil July 1, 2008 at 4:03 am #

    Ah! So nice… These are the little things that make B’lore what it is… 🙂
    Good one, saar!

  2. Which Main? What Cross? July 1, 2008 at 6:14 am #

    Who will surive? I guess that we the customers will decide

  3. Xylene July 1, 2008 at 10:40 am #

    The price difference is huge for eg sweetlime cost Rs28 in most of the supermarkets, while right outside vendor sells it for 20.

  4. Vijay July 1, 2008 at 10:48 am #

    @Nikhil: So true…
    @Which Main?: Its definitely a struggle for the vendor on the street…
    @Xylene: Actually the lady was a bit more expensive than the shop.. in fact I observed a couple of people who asked her for prices and then walked into the store to do their shopping…

  5. Xylene July 1, 2008 at 3:43 pm #

    Vijay
    Oh ! inflation is hitting everyone.

  6. Gulmohar July 1, 2008 at 9:02 pm #

    During my last visit to B’lore, I visited one of those “Greens & Grains” shops in Gandhibazar in search of frozen peas. There was such stench of as soon as I entered the shop .I ended up buying fresh peas from a roadside vendor.I don’t know if it was a freak case !

  7. A Kumar July 1, 2008 at 9:15 pm #

    The new fangled Vegetable Market pays taxes. The automated billing system takes care of it. The roadside vendor does not, no matter how much he or she makes. Result: Less tax collected, less development.

  8. praneshachar July 1, 2008 at 11:53 pm #

    yes it makes a big difference with chain of stores selling all these things but really there is a huge difference in many things price is one aspect you have to pay for the facilities infrastructure etc. etc., but outside you get sometimes very fresh at very best price
    reliance started with very lost prices but slowly they are back with almost normal prices so it ones choice one has to where he likes. for road side vendor particularly ladies it is their earning for the day to feed their family and little saving to educate their children.
    but it is not so so retail chain stores.

  9. Veena July 2, 2008 at 8:33 am #

    One thing is sure, these people can give me their veggies for any amount of money that I have (earlier enTaani ondu kottambari soppu now 2 Rs kottambari soppu).. but the big shops weighs in bigger qts and they set minimums to higher extent 🙂 .. They sell me 690gm when I ask them 1/2kg..;-)

    saavayava krishi(organic manure) Vs Rasagobbara krishi 🙂

    The most I enjoyed with these road side vendors are their talks, and they usually say giTTalla namage, naaLkaaNe laabha.. I really wonder if they make so less money out of their hard work! sigh!!

    ps: I see such vendors now on the walk ways that generally people take, for eg, Near kukkaralli kere at Mysore, or any double roads/parks..

  10. Madhu Rao July 2, 2008 at 3:11 pm #

    @A Kumar,
    Flipping your comment on it’s ear, you pay taxes to help get you infrastructure and betterment aka development. A vendor on the street gets little to nada from the Govt (sans a bottle of toddy and a handloom saree during elections maybe) ; their lives and business is non-existential to the Govt. So why would they pay taxes ?

    If we had a system where they would be assured of betterment and protection from harassment via hafta by the police, a designated market that can house all not just a handful, maybe they will be open to paying their hafta as taxes ?

  11. A Kumar July 2, 2008 at 7:36 pm #

    @Madhu Rao,

    The government is unable to provide protection from middlemen and decent markets as they do not have enough money, which by the way is collected via taxes!

    I am in favor of chain stores and markets. Having such a store close to my house has significantly reduced (about 90%) push-cart and other type of vendors on our street. This has resulted in less noise pollution (no more shouting), less garbage (dumping of rotten and waste produce in our rain water drain) and faster movement (read normal speed) of vehicles.

    If I had the power to make changes, the first thing I would do is abolish proprietorship and partnership businesses and allow only limited companies with a minimum capital amount of One Crore Rupees.

  12. praneshachar July 3, 2008 at 12:32 pm #

    while right outside the door, this woman tries to compete…

    These women are best in their business I know they borrow Rs.100 or 200 or 500 (depending on their projected marked or coverage) in the morning from the money lender who given them when they go for early morning buy in whole sale marked. she has to return the money with 10% interest in the evening. yah the interest is whopping 10% per day. the lady buys veggies or flowers or fruits in which she is dealing and sells the whole day and evening the money lender comes and takes back his principle with interest may it be Rs110 or 220 or 550 balance will be hers after meeting all hafts be it be dadas or cops. even then she makes a decent money she know how to sell morning when it is fresh she will sell at higher price once she recovers her principle strategy will change and again when she has earned enough for the day ie. her target after meeting all expenses in market as indicated above she disposed off the remaining in throw away prices and reach home and in majority of the cases yajamana will be waiting to grab her earning and rush to have his booze in the left out money she will feed the family and do some saving by investing in chit or like that and most of the time it goes well some times chit fellows cheat means they are gone but again she will start fresh blaming her fate and cursing that fellow who cheated her
    this is the story I had interactions with some of them when I was in hospet and hubli and I salute their grit. she is not educated but know perfect maths she is a perfect business women clear that she can not afford to lose.
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  13. Madhu Rao July 3, 2008 at 2:39 pm #

    @A Kumar,
    I’m glad you do not have the power Kumar. It’s more than just “I”. With 70% of the populace below the poverty line, you do need to think beyond I and noise pollution. A hawker getting his daily livelyhood is noise pollution ; what about when you venture into the city with your big car joining the millions of vehicles and adding to jams and noise alike ?

    And abolish anything sans big corporations ? And to hell with these people and their livelyhood ? So basically push even more into penury ?

    Our Govt has money to dream of landing on the moon and venture to Mars — doDDa kudure cHeste. The phoren jaunts and the bulging pockets of politicians go unchecked and when it comes to looking out for the poor, it does not have money ….

  14. Madhu Rao July 3, 2008 at 2:41 pm #

    @praneshachar, A very true and good account …

  15. Veena July 4, 2008 at 5:37 pm #

    @ A Kumar, I second Madhu’s comment. Wonder if you have realised how much we are contributing in terms of noise or overall environment pollution for that matter.

    One Crore Rupees ge sonne eshTu antha eNistaa ideevi naavella…! and about the income tax paid to the govt, huh! We should first question all Auditors for their krishNa lekha that they make for those biggies..

  16. Kishore July 6, 2008 at 6:13 pm #

    @ A Kumar: Most of these street vendors live hand to mouth… they don’t even make enough to be taxable. The big money that the Govt eats through corruption and giving rich people and people in power slack is the one that needs to be fixed.

    If the poor are hiding money by not paying tax then why are they still POOR??? The poor do what they have to do… to survive. They have no voice to defend themselves.

    Govt, legislation, infrastructure,access to health care and development… what should be their target? Betterment of life/quality of life to everyone… it is the ‘human’ factor that needs care and nurture.

  17. Vijay July 7, 2008 at 4:44 am #

    @gulmohur: I guess being enclosed is a disadvantage.. however I find most of the places like Reliance Fresh and the Greens and Grains shop fairly clean…
    @Kumar: Taxes??? The poor lady is barely making ends meet.. shes making a living by working hard…

  18. MY3 July 18, 2008 at 4:10 am #

    I have been wandering around Gandhi Bazaar and just enjoying the smells of India. Believe it or not, so far the veggies and fruits at Hopcoms on Vani Vilas road have been awesome. I was shocked to see fresh bright, shiny green avocados sitting in a butti at Hopcoms. The store called Fresh has been most mediocre. Reliance Fresh has almost no fruits. I had heard a lot about these stores. They are nice and clean but not a big hit in Gandhi Bazaar area. Probably in other areas they are a big success. I also went and checked out a little jute bag “factory”. They turn out the most interesting bags :-). I am yet to visit Subbammana Angadi. Another report to follow later on 😉

  19. Vijay July 18, 2008 at 4:21 am #

    @MY3: Good to hear from you and nice to know that you are fully enzaaying…We were wondering where you had gone AWOL.

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